The end of debate
As a debate coach I feel a certain irony in saying that there is no point in debating something, but in the “real world,” if that’s the right term, there is often no point to debate. As I tell my debate students, formal debate is not a search for truth, but a sport, a sort of boxing match in which each side pummels the other with “facts” and “evidence,” and a judge then decides who did this with the most facility. There is never an epiphany on one side, in which a debater sees the wisdom of the opponent, in fact that would constitute a loss for the agreeing side.
As the reader may have noticed, the academic debate approach, the endless repetition of positions, is the default mode in public discussion. Let’s take the current debate on gun control. Below is an exchange on the subject using the arguments we are hearing in the news, as they might be expressed in one of the popular debate events, such as Lincoln-Douglas or Public Forum, starting with the resolution, followed by a back and forth between the Affirmative (Aff) and Negative (Neg):
Resolved: In light of recent mass shootings using automatic weapons with high capacity ammunition clips, combat weaponry should be banned from civilian use.
Aff: There is no legitimate purpose in civilian life for automatic weapons.
Neg: These weapons will find their way into the hands of criminals and insane people with or without laws against them. Civilians need these weapons to combat those who obtain them illegally.
Aff: That is the role of police and military forces, not civilians.
Neg: The founders wrote the Second Amendment to make sure the population has the right to bear arms. Restricting assault weapons is the first step in a slippery slope leading to a total prohibition against all guns. The larger question is protection of freedom.
Aff: We are not talking about restricting all firearms. People would still have the right to arm themselves both for personal protection and for recreational uses such as hunting.
Neg: The ultimate purpose, however, is to ban all firearms from the population.
Aff: No it isn’t.
Neg: Yes it is.
Aff: No it isn’t.
Neg: Yes it is.
Of course the last four statements would not be made, but their equivalents would. There is no end to the debate. There is not supposed to be an end. The two sides “debate” essentially for an implied eternity.
My point is that, whereas formal academic debate forces a closure at the end of the round, at which point a judge rules- not on who is right, but who debated most skillfully- in “real life,” the debate is endless and, often, pointless.
The debate on gun control has reached the pointless point, not only because it’s at the “No it isn’t- Yes it is” level, but because the Neg, in this case the National Rifle Association (NRA) and its supporters are not debating. By this I mean that if the current national gun control debate were a formal academic debate at a tournament, the NRA would lose by virtue of its avoiding any clash.
“Clash” is defined as the precise “hitting” of an opponent’s argument. So, for instance, if the Neg alleges that civilians need combat weaponry to protect against a hypothetical tyrannical government, the Aff could counter that internet carriers have already given up our right to mail privacy- one of the key steps towards a Big Brother state- and this loss of privacy happened in a country already inundated with personal arms, indicating that simple possession of weaponry does not in itself guarantee liberty. Such an Aff response would constitute clash, as it directly addresses the Neg point. If the Neg then responded by ignoring the point, which is in fact what the NRA does, then the judge would give the win to the Aff because it clashed and the Neg did not.
As an example let’s take the recent Tweet from Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, that President Obama is “…coming for your guns!” This is McConnell's response to a number of reasoned arguments against combat weapons as domestic staples. I think we can agree there is no clash in the senator's comments, no reference to positions taken on the opposing side. Let's hope the general public is as observant to detail as the average parent/judge at a high school debate tournament, and can smell red herring from a distance.
So if there’s no point in debating gun control, what is left? The only thing that is left is strength and determination. This means that the President must do more than advocate and argue for Congressional action against civilian use of combat weaponry- he must use muscle to get his legislation passed. The arguments have all been made, and virtually no one on either side has been persuaded by the opposition. The debate is in fact over. Now it’s time to make something happen.
If the President prevails and we have an opposition that is incensed and irreconcilable, the message to them should be: “If you don’t like it, move to Central Africa where you can enjoy urban warfare to your heart's content.”

6 Comments:
Your argument neglects two important points: (1) what impact have laws outlawing assault weapons had in the past; and (2) what is the cost of enforcement, and would society be better off investing in another area related to school safety that heretofore has been neglected, for example, mental health and training and hiring behavioral specialists in schools who have a clue on how to reach and teach children with neurological disabilities such as autism.
12:26 PM
It's true that past laws have had minimal effect on gun violence, but I don't see that as a reason for not having the laws. We still prohibit murder, even though people still murder. I would like to see more investing in mental health, but that should not be at the expense of some sort of enforcement. As an aside, I find it unfortunate that, because one shooter was incorrectly labeled autistic, the public now views autism as dangerous. My brother in law is autistic, with most of the typical symptoms, and if anything he's less violent than the average person. There will be exceptions, but they are exceptions.
8:38 AM
"It's true that past laws have had minimal effect on gun violence, but I don't see that as a reason for not having the laws. We still prohibit murder, even though people still murder"
It had no effect on violence, gun or not. The original ban, like the smoke and fire of the current kerfuffle, also drove the sales of such through the roof.
Murder will always be a crime; there is a victim. Most of the criminals manufactured by past, present and future "assault weapons" bans harmed no one, and had no intent to harm anyone who did not initiate force against them.
The past ban helped no one, and made people who harmed no one, and had no intent to harm anyone except in defence, and that is a hallmark of a Bad Law. We need to focus the police power of the state in a direction that prevents real crime and harm to innocents, not inventing new victimless crimes for non-criminals to be found guilty of.
I get it; they're icky and you want them to go away. Sorry, but "assault weapons" differences with other rifles that remain legal are purely cosmetic, and magazine size restrictions are arbitrary and only limit legal defense uses, as one intent on criminal use can carry as large a bag of preloaded magazines as they want, or as many guns as they want. Someone grabbing a gun for defense is likely to only have whatever is inserted before the danger appeared.
3:17 PM
"Resolved: In light of recent mass shootings using automatic weapons with high capacity ammunition clips, combat weaponry should be banned from civilian use."
Of course, some debate questions are falsely framed, as is this one. The ugly plastic rifle being demonized here and in Sen. Feinstein's apparently dead in the water ban *isn't* an automatic, nor is it a combat weapon.
They also don't use "clips". Clips are simple metal stampings that can be used to refill magazines, magazines are generally metal (sometimes plastic) boxes with springs, sometimes a fixed part of the rifle but most modern magazines are removable.
What the US military uses in combat are automatics, machine guns under civilian law, firing multiple times with one squeeze of the trigger. We send troops into battle with assault rifles like the M16 or M4, other armies use the now geriatric AK47 designed by Kalashnikov and others; assault rifles have *never* been sold to civilians in California. "Assault weapon" is a term coined by Handgun Control, Inc/The Brady Center to confuse people like Doug Lasken into thinking the semi-automatic versions that fire once per trigger pull, no more rapidly than a police revolver, that *look* like the military versions, are in fact military combat weapons, assault rifles. They are not.
Finally, if a semi-automatic rifle with a pistol grip and a 20 round magazine is only for killing lots of people quickly, why is the civilian Dept. of Homeland Security buying 7,000 "Personal Defense Weapons", fully automatic and shortened versions of the M16, with 30 round magazines?
(btw, I'm a fellow kto16 lister, a native Californian, who doesn't own any "assault weapons" under California law but the vast majority of magazines I have are larger than 10 rounds, and remain legal because I bought them before the ban)
12:43 PM
Even if I was "fooled" into thinking that what we are told is automatic is in fact semi-automatic, the technical distinction has no bearing on the question of why our society should not attempt to limit civilian ownership of either weapon. What are their legitimate civilian, urban uses? They don't have any, but they are cherished as Hollywood symbols of freedom and protection from hypothetical enemies, including a US government that fights a war against locally armed militias. That scenario is the basis of several hit video games. How does the NRA get off criticizing the video game industry when it feeds the same frenzy?
1:38 PM
"Even if I was "fooled" into thinking that what we are told is automatic is in fact semi-automatic, the technical distinction has no bearing on the question"
You might question why the people who are whipping up your frenzy either don't know the distinction, or are confusing you on purpose. And the distinction is far more than "technical"; it is the difference between a gun that is legal everywhere in the US, and one that is a serious Federal felony to possess without very difficult to acquire paperwork in most states and completely illegal in California.
The first Assault Rifle was invented in the 1940's by Germany, and the most successful rifle design in history, the AK47, was 1947. Since machine guns were banned for civilians in California in 1934, no assault rifle has ever been sold in California to civilians. A technical difference that is worth about 20 years in jail.
"What are their legitimate civilian, urban uses? They don't have any"
What about civilian and rural? I live on a couple acres in an area with wildcats and coyotes, a mile down a dirt road, and calling 911 might see a delay of an hour even if they aren't on a call; they might be 50 miles away.
Target shooting is a popular and "legitimate use". And, once in SoCal, I had a .223 rifle loaded and nearby while I called the police and witnessed them respond to a vehicle burglary in front of a neighbor's house. When I told an investigating officer (the gun safely in the house by then) that I'd been watching the perps the whole time, he just smiled and put his book away. Never had to go to court, either; they were caught red handed.
Hunting is another valid use, although the .223 is generally considered too small for deer or anything larger. It just isn't the powerful cartridge that DiFi makes it out to be.
Then there's self defense. Remember those Korean-American shopkeepers protecting their livelihood when the LAPD abandoned their neighborhood during the last riots? The Times also reported folks living in the hills above the westside bringing out all sorts of interesting guns when they blocked off their streets to keep the threatened attacks at bay; one memorable thought was from a left-liberal resident who told the reporter that, when the revolution came, he always imagined he'd be on the other side of the barricades.
Finally, Doug, how many infringements can there be before the right to own and use guns really is infringed?
3:46 PM
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